Saturday, 16 November 2013

Shia Kill Seven Sunni Students In Rawalpindi, Pakistan

By Sikander Hayat

Shias have killed seven sunnis in Rawalpindi, Pakistan for shouting abuse at their procession. A sunni mosque was burnt and students were dragged on the street before being killed by Shia mob. It seems as if this time shias have crossed a fine line in a country like Pakistan where religious tolerance is at historic ebb. Country is full of religious preachers who have livelihoods depending on spreading the message of hate.
Shias are a minority in Pakistan and often on the receiving end of violence but this case will exacerbate the situation and there is a possibility that if matter is not dealt carefully by the federal government, things can get out of hand. Already there are reports of disturbances in other parts of the country.
Why kill people for just calling you names. Is human life that cheap that you can take it because your Gods are above everything else. No god is above human life and people in Pakistan must understand this fact before anything can change in this country. A person died 14 hundred years ago and you are killing now to take revenge for that killing. How retarded you have to be to do such a thing. Pakistan cannot handle this at this juncture in history with Taliban knocking the hell out of Pakistani state and time is now come to ban all hate speech in Pakistan and implement it. Anyone who kills in the name of religion must be dealt with full force of law.

17 comments:

  1. Gustakh e ahlaibait ka yehe anjam hota hai, Shias are minority in Pakistan, so were the ahlaibait at the time of Karbala, the YAZIDI ARMY who killed Imam Hussain had quran paks hanging in their necks, the YAZIDI ARMY called themselves Muslims.

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    1. Hi Panjetan,

      Pakistanis need to be tolerant of others views to move forward. Nothing, no words, no writing can diminish prophet Muhammad family. They are stronger than that. Their name will stay. My point was that blood cannot be shed because we don't like someone's views on religion. Islam is stronger than that. Prophet is stronger than that. We need to give people space to breath. There is too much religious suffocation in Pakistan. Tolerance needs to prevail.
      Thanks for your visit and input to this website.

      Regards
      Sikander Hayat

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  2. Allah is not above human lives ???? I think you just crossed the Kufr line with that sentence.

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    1. Hi,

      Thanks for your comment. My humble opinion is that Allah does not want people to divide islam into different sects. One is either a Muslim or not a Muslim. Shia, sunni and everything in between are Muslim. Only Allah can decide who is the real Muslim, no man has the right to judge and kill on that basis. The real true god cannot condone killing of innocent human being. Pakistan has reached the stage where it is because people call everyone who does not follow their way, a Kafir. This cannot be right way to approach matters.

      Thanks once again for visiting.

      Regards
      Sikander Hayat

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    2. What?? YOU ARE SAYING THAT SOMEONE KILLED 1400 YEARS AGO AND PEOPLE ARE TAKING REVENGE FOR THAT? IS NOT IT A BIG ABUSIVE LANGUAGE FOR THE FAMILY OF PROPHET (POABUHAHF) ? QURAN SAYS ALLAH ( AJ) KILLED THOUSANDS AS A REVENGE OF KILLING OF HIS PROPHET. BECAUSE IT WAS NOT JUST SOMEONE IT WAS A PROPHET. AND I ADMIT THAT KILLING OF ANYONE IS BAD. HOWEVER, DO NOT SAY SUCH THINGS ABOUT THE FAMILY OF PROPHET (POABUHAHF). ISLAM ALWAYS BELIEEVS IN REVENGE. ESPECIALLY IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE HOLY PEOPLE. PROPHET SAID THE CURSED PERSON DURING THE ERA OF PREVIOUS PROPHETS WAS ONE WHO KILLED THE FEMALE CAMEL OF ONE OF THE PROPHETS BECAUSE IT WAS SENT BY GOD. AND THE CURSED IN THE LATER PEOPLE IS THE ONE WHO KILLS ALI ( ASAMWAW). AND ALLAH ( AJ) THREW THE RAIN OF BLOOD ALL OVER THE WORLD AFTER THE KILLING OF HAZRAT IMAM HUSSAIN ( PABOABUHAHF). SEE THE BOOK IN THE KINGS COLLEGE LONDON WHEN EVERY FOOD WAS FOUND TO HAVE BLOOD UNDERNEET IT ON THAT DAY. THIS MEANS THE INCIDENT IS NOT JUST SOMEBODY KILLED 1400 YEARS AGO, AS CALLED BY YOU. IT WAS THE MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH OF ISLAM. I CONDEMN KILLING OF PEOPLE AND SHIA DO NOT BELIVE IN KILLING THEY JUST DO MATAM. SO DO NOT MISINTERPRET AND DO NOT SAY IT WAS REVENGE. GOD HAS TO TAKE THE REVENGE.

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    3. Hi Anonymous,

      Thanks for your comment. It would have been great if you had given your name and place. That helps in connecting better. I respect your views and do not want to undermine your faith. I personally do not believe in killing people for saying something that I may not like. A life can only be taken as a punishment for murder and constitution of Pakistan allows for that. In the incident in question, those who were killed were Muslims as well. They believed in the same prophet & Allah. They were not any less Muslim than anyone else. The basic question here is tolerance. Tolerance of opposing views. Tolerance of something that you do not like. For Pakistan to become a developed nation, madness will have to end. Pakistanis will have to rise above their sectarian & ethnic bases . Once again thanks for your comment & hope to see to back here on this forum.

      Regards
      Sikander Hayat

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    4. YOU CAN CALL ME SAWAN, FROM MULTAN.
      NO DOUBT I BELIEVE IN PEACE, AND BOTH OF US AGREE ON THAT KILLING IS FORBIDDEN WHETHER IT IS MUSLIM OR NONMUSLIM. THE ISSUE THAT I HAD WITH YOU WAS NOT ABOUT KILLING. IT WAS ABOUT THE WRONG JUDGEMENT AND POOR INTERPRETATION OF HISTORICAL FACTS AND POOR KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY WHICH LEAD THAT OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE THAT YOU HAD. HOW COULD SOMEONE ADVISE OTHERS TO RESPECT EACH OTHER WHEN IT DOESNOT KNOW HOW TO BE RESPECTFUL. APART FROM THAT THE ARTICLE WAS SO ABUSIVE TOWARDS THE HOLY FAMILY ( POABUHAHF), THERE ARE STATEMENTS THAT DO NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
      NOW I TELL YOU WHY YOU MADE BLUNDERS IN UR ARTICLE.
      1. YOU WROTE, SHIAH ARE TAKING REVENGE FOR SOMETHING HAPPENED 1400 YEARS AGO.
      CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME, WHEN DID SHIAH SAY THAT THEY DO MATAM FOR THAT REVENGE AND THEY WANT TO KILL ANYONE DURING MOHARRAM THROUGH MATAM. YOU EVEN DO NOT KNOW WHY THE MATAM IS DONE OR WERE BIASED AGAINST MATAM.
      2. YOU INTERPRETED RAWALPINDI INCIDENT AS SHIAH KILLED SUNNIES FOR NO REASON. HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN FOUND THAT SUNNIES INTERFERED FIRST.
      3. IT SOUNDED FROM YOUR STATEMENT AS IF SOME MURDER HAPPENED 1400 YEARS AGO SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
      I THINK YOU BELIVE IN BARABRSIM. IN THE CIVILISED WORLD OF JUSTICE, THE PUNISHEMENT AND REVENGE OF ANY CRIME CAN NOT BE IGNORED BASED ON TIME LIMITS. GO AND STUDY LAW IN CIVILISED WORLD. YOU THINK SOMETHING HAPPENED 2 DAYS AGO WOULD BE CONSIDERED BUT IF KILLING OCCURED MORE THAN 2 DAYS AGO IT SHOULD BE IGNORED. NO BODY SHOULD THINK ABOUT REVENGE.

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    5. Hi Sawan,

      Thanks for taking time to add your view to this forum. I respect your views as a Shia and want you to know that I would not like to do or say anything which hurts your feelings. Muslims of all sects need to respect each other's feelings.
      Today's murder of another Sunni leader Shamas Ur Rehman Mauwia and yesterday's killing of Deedar Ali Jalbani does not bode well for the future of Shia Sunni relations in Pakistan. I know that the theocratic issues are grave and have not been resolved during the last 1400 years and I know that it wont be possible to resolve these issues over night but letting other people say what we don't not like is the very essence of humanity. Freedom of speech & freedom of religious practice is what Pakistan needs. We can only practice our own religion if we let others practice theirs. I concur with you on other issues that you mentioned but we agree to disagree on the issue of freedom of speech.

      Once again thanks for contributing your thoughts to this forum. Have a great day.

      Regards
      Sikander Hayat

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    6. Who says shia is family of Prophet PBUH. All marasis and kanjars getting money to become shia and the next generation start calling themselves Syed.

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  3. Dear All,
    Go and study Shia religion, you will understand who they are and what they want? I believe no procession is allowed for any sect, as we already know sect is not allowed in ISLAM.

    Allah Tala nay aik bar phair munafiqion ko bay naqab kar dia hay.
    Please Become Muslim not "Deobandi", "Baraivli", Shia, etc
    Fe Aman Allah

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    1. Dear Anonymous,

      Thanks for your comment. As I have said previously, please leave your name & city because this will add weight to your argument. I hope that both Shia & Sunni use this forum to understand each other better and learn to live with their differences. This will help Muslims to avoid what is being witnessed in Iraq, Syria, Bahrain, Yemen & now Pakistan. Once again, thanks for your comment.

      Regards
      Sikander Hayat

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  4. Dear All,
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    Regards,

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  5. More Shia Sunni violence in Karachi today as people from both sects have killed each other in the name of religion. Sectarian violence is getting out of hand in Pakistan, especially Karachi is in the grip of ethnic & sectarian violence. At least 12 people lost their lives in Karachi today. All of these people were Muslims but that did not stop them from getting killed. It seems that human life has no value any more in Pakistan.

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  6. The funeral of prominent Shia community leader Allama Deedar Ali Jalbani has been held in the Pakistani city of Karachi amid rising tension.

    The BBC's Karachi correspondent Shahzeb Jillani says that dozens of people have been killed over the last few days.

    Karachi - Pakistan's biggest city - has for years been plagued by sectarian, ethnic and political violence.

    About 1,200 Shias also held a protest over Mr Jalbani's killing in what police say was a sectarian attack.

    He was shot on Tuesday along with his guard by gunmen in the eastern neighbourhood of Gulshan-e-Iqbal.

    The city's main artery, MA Jinnah Road - which links different busy districts and shopping areas - was shut for hours because of the protest.

    "We closed the road and stopped movement of traffic in the surrounding areas also to avoid any untoward incident," senior police official Pir Muhammad Shah told the AFP news agency.

    Private schools in the city were closed and public transport was mostly off the roads because of security concerns over the protest staged by the Majlis-e-Wahdatul Muslimeen (MWM), of which Mr Jalbani was the deputy secretary general.

    The city's three main universities all postponed examinations scheduled for Wednesday.

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  7. LAHORE: Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) leader Maulana Shamsur Rehman Muawiya has been killed in Lahore, Express News reported on Friday.
    Maulana Shamsur Rehman, who was ASWJ’s president in Punjab, had been going home after Friday prayers from Muhammadi Masjid when unidentified men opened fire at his car near Batti Chowk.
    According to initial details, the ASWJ leader was shot in the head. His body has been sent for post mortem. Rehman’s driver, who was also injured in the attack, was taken into custody for further investigation.
    The ASWJ has announced a country-wide protest against the attack.
    Express News correspondent Sajjad Shafiq Butt reported that party workers had launched an immediate protest against the killing and for a while, even prevented the police from taking away the Maulana’s body.
    After the body was finally taken to the hospital, the protesters chanted slogans and pelted stones, causing shopkeepers to shut down their shops at the Anarkali Market.
    As Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif called up an emergency meeting over the incident, protests blocked the busy Mall Road.
    Hundreds of police personnel have been deployed at Mall Road, Anarkali and other areas, armed with batons, tear gas and other equipment necessary to prevent any more indiscipline.
    Many members of ASWJ have been victims of target killings in the past year.
    In 2001, Pakistan banned the sectarian group Sipah-e-Sahaba under pressure from the United States to crack down on militancy but the group changed its name to Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamat (ASWJ).

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  8. THE ONLY JUDGE IS ALLAH ........

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  9. Assalam Alaikum

    I am Abdulla from Toronto. I really appreciate the attempt made by the organizers of the website to facilitate a better understanding of the religion. Having read all the above comments , I would like to draw the kind attention of my brothers to the conduct of our Prophet (PBUH) with the people irrespective of their religion. Has he not been called Sadiq & Ameen. Had he not prayed for the people of Taif who used to pelt him with stones. Had he not visited the lady who used to throw garbage on this. How many times we have at looked and highlighted this beauty of our religion. Unfortunately our religion which is very sensitive about the rights of the animals too is now being potrayed as a religion which has nothing but to kill people.

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